# Podcast: Drill to Detail - Dagster, Orchestration and Software-Defined Assets

> Nick Schrock explains software-defined assets (SDAs) and how they bring structure and clarity to data pipelines in Dagster.

Source: https://dagster.io/blog/podcast-drill-to-detail-aug-2023
Published: 2023-08-03

**Drill to Detail Ep.109**: '*Dagster, Orchestration and Software-Defined Assets*' with special guest Nick Schrock

Mark Rittman, founder of [**Rittman Analytics**](https://www.rittmananalytics.com/)—a [**Dagster Implementation Partner**](https://dagster-website.vercel.app/partners)—is joined in this episode by returning guest and Dagster Labs Founder Nick Shrock to talk about Dagster's role in the modern data stack ecosystem and software defined assets, a new, declarative approach to managing data and orchestrating its maintenance.

[**Listen to the episode**](https://www.rittmananalytics.com/drilltodetail/2023/8/3/04115zgnr2q91ehi1mf5f1u0vu8788)